Hola alguien me puede decir las diferencias en cuanto a USO entre la Switch y la Slayer? Cual es más Enduro? Cual más radical? Para bike parks? gracias
gracies desconozco las diferencias, las hay? Qué año cambiaron de modelo y, por ello, las características?
La Switch se va a 5Kg con amortiguador, es un cuadro de Freeride puro y duro... Aunque se deja pedalear un rato. Un amigo mío tuvo una y la usaba para todo al principio aunque en cuanto la 'engordó' un poco (cubiertas 2ply, doble pletina, etc...) dejó de dar pedal con ella. La Slayer es una enduro al uso, sin más... Un saludo.
gracias, qué quieres decir con "una enduro al uso, sin más"... es buena bici? Bajando?... bike park sin cortados... ?
Probé la Slayer de Marky27 del foro en Manzaneda y me pareció algo vertical de dirección pero me impresionó lo bien que va la trasera, es muy tragona a pesar de no tener mucho recorrido y luego al final se endurece haciéndose progresiva. Vamos, que es una bici de Enduro pero de esas que bajan mejor que suben. Aún con eso no es una bici para pasarse un verano de bikepark en bikepark, ni para estar todos los findes haciendo saltos de 2m, es una bici para hacer rutas normales (30-50km) y darte algún capricho bajando. Por supuesto que podrás hacer el cafre con ella, cortadillos, escalones, pequeños saltos... pero a poder ser evitando planazos y burradas varias.
No has puesto ninguna Switch... Bueno sí, en la última foto, pero está por detrás y no se ve... Te pongo la que tenía mi colega. Al principio la tenía de serie, con pletina simple y dos platos, pero luego se cansó de pedalear con un muerto y la puso 100% dh. Un saludo.
Hola, pues hace unas semanas probe intensamente una Slayer 70 tope gama en los alrededores de Oslo, efectivamente es una enduro LT que pedalea bastante bien y sube dignamente, pesa algo mas de 13kg con lo que va mas que bien cuesta arriba, tiene dos platos, con lo que para rutas largas con zonas planas o enlaces por asfalto y tal se hara aburrida, pero si le das a los senderos y te gusta bajar, no echas de menos el plato grande y se comporta muy bien, me gusto mucho la suspension trasera, tracciona muy bien, y me parecio estable a gran velocidad bajando. Yo creo que en un bikepark te ira bien, pero si te tiras por rampas medias y algun salto echaran en falta un buen amortiguador, porque el rp23 no esta hecho para eso y se calentara rapido y haras topes. Quizas a medio plazo si le pones un dhx5 la dejaras mucho mejor para bikeparks y no te penalizara en tus rutas. En mi blog comento alguna cosilla mas, creo recordar. saludos y suerte.
Estos no son los últimos modelos, pero el montaje de cada una exprime su personalidad. Como dos bicis con el mismo recorrido de suspensión y los mismos componentes, llantas y neumáticos pueden ser tan distintas. Si fueran coches, la Slayer sería un coche francés y la Switch inglés, por su diferente filosofía.
La mia es el modelo anterior, de 2005: Rocky Mountain 2005 Switch SL Bike reviews Reviews of Rocky Mountain's all-mountain, freeride-lite Switch SL 6" travel full susser Classic Canadian dirt merchant gets an air shock make-over When we first introduced the Switch platform we changed freeriding forever. By giving riders all the strength and suspension that you'd expect on a DH bike with the freedom of being able to ride back up that you'd find on an all mountain bike, we opened up a whole new level of enjoyment to the sport. The key is the combination of the Switch's rear triangulated four-bar linkage with the suspension technology of the RMX RAD front end. You get medium to long travel suspension performance, with the geometry and pedaling performance of a lighter, all-mountain bike. Rocky Mountain Switch SL Spec Sheet • Frame: Easton 7005 FS RAD SL Taperwall Aluminum • Frame Weight: 3.59 kg / 7.9 lb (18.0") (peso CON amortiguador) • Fork: Marzocchi Z1 FR SL w/ QR20 • Front Travel: 150 mm • Rear Shock: FOX Float RP3 w/ Custom Valved ProPedal • Rear Travel: 152 mm • Head Set: FSA Orbit • Stem: Easton Vice - 31.8 mm • Handlebar: Easton EA50 - 31.8 mm • Brakes: Hayes HFX-9 • Brake Levers: Hayes HFX-9 Carbon • Shifters: SRAM 7.0 TrIggers • Gearing (RR/FR): SRAM 9.0 / Shimano LX • Cranks & Chainrings: RACE FACE Evolve XC X-Type • Bottom Bracket: RACE FACE Evolve XC X-Type • Pedals: Shimano M424 • Hubs (RR/FR): Shimano M525 / RMB 20 mm CARBON • Cog-Set: SRAM 970 • Chain: SRAM PC59 • Spokes: DT Champion • Rims: Mavic XM 321 Disc • Tires (RR/FR): Maxxis Minion Lite 2.5" - 60 TPI • Seat Post: Easton EA50 • Saddle: SDG Freeride How do the world's press rate Rocky Mountain's Switch SL bike? Read on to find out... "Lightweight mutha hucker from our friends in Canada..." Rocky Mountain have had the Switch freeride full susser in their line for a few years now, and it has been one of the most popular choices for riders wanting a long travel rig that can handle the worst North Shore hucks in the morning, do a bit of downhill work in the afternoon and pootle around the woods in the evening. That's probably why it's called the Switch - because it can easily handle switching from one thing to another. If you're looking for a stamp of approval for the Rocky Mountain Switch, then look no further than one of the pioneers of freeriding: Mr Richie Schley. Richie rides a Switch and often chooses it over other Rocky Mountain models which have more travel but also more weight and often less manouevrability to offer. What does it ride like? In a word, light. Not in a wishy-washy way where you're left wondering if the bike ias as committed to the trail as you are, but in a fun, flickable and feisty way that makes you think you can just keep going all day. There aren't many 152mm (6") travel frames we can say that about. We enjoyed pushing it flat-out through downhill singletrack where the combination of supple suspension and a stiff frame let us carve precisely through turns which normally have us running offline on other long-travel bikes. Some people are turned off by the look of the Switch by the large pressed alloy section that the rear shock mounts to, but we think it sets the bike apart in a market filled with looky-likies. The rest of the frame is made from excellent Easton RAD tubing and the square-to-round tube profiles help produce a frame that is as handsome as it is strong - the welds are beautifully finished and they help create an overall feeling of quality. We rode the limited edition Moko version of the Switch, with a flash paint job for extra cash over the standard frame. The top-end build included a Fox 36 fork with 150mm (6") travel (the frame is designed for up to 170mm travel), a Fox Float RP3 shock, Mavic Crossmax XL wheels and SRAM X0 gearing. All this keeps the bike as light as possible but blinging at the same time. We'd make a space for it in our garage in a heartbeat. MBUK VERDICT: Super plush long-legged freerider that can be easily XC'd. MBUK October 2005 - winner of the SUPERBIKE slot With the front end based on Rocky Mountain's hucking machine, the RMX, mated to a rideable faux-bar rear end, the Switch mated the strength and suspension of a DH bike and became a pedalable machine. FRAME The Switch SL shares the same frame design as the rest of the Switch family, leaning on the RMX for inspiration but instead of the Easton RAD DH tubing the other Switch frames consist of, the SL uses the SL tubeset. The same square-to-round sections are present, with flaring increasing strength and stiffness, but the tube walls are up to hallf a m,il thinner. This makes for a strong yet suprisingly light frame, with the SL being over a pound and a half lighter than its more portly DH-tibed brethren. The top and down tubes feature the square-to-round profile and are seperated by a pair of flat plate girder sections that replace the seat tube and make available a solid shock mounting point. The small, interrupted seat tube sits just behind these and extends above the top tube by a good 2", allowing plenty of clearance and seat height adjustability. SUSPENSION Out back the Switch SL features a faux-bar linkage (essentially a single pivot with rocker-actuated shock). INA needle bearings and cartridge bearings provide free running pivots; the needle bearings in the pivot are much better at resisting the sideways forces generated by big hits and help with the stiff-feeling rear end. The CNC'd linkage actuating the shock has double-sealed cartridge bearings for ease of servicing. The shock itself is a Fox RP3 unit with a custom valved shim stack to take advantage of the exact linkage rate and leverage ratio of the Switch. Up front Marzocchi takes care of things with the new Doppio Air System. Seperately tuneable positive and negative springs allow an almost infinitely tuneable set-up. Aftert the initial spring rate set-up, further tuning is available from the valve at the bottom of the fork. An increase in pressure here makes the fork stroke morer progressive, preventing bottoming out on big hits without sacrificing the overall supple nature possible with the seperate positive and negative springs. Rebound damping is also adjustable, and, new for '05, the TST damping system is here. All this tied together by burly 32mm stanchions and a 20mm thru' axle. Light and solid are desired qualities and the Z1 FR SL has these in spades. COMPONENTS At first glance the spec level on the Switch SL is top rate, with full Easton EA50 finishing kit, while Hayes HFX9 Carbon continues the Hayes' theme of reliable, powerful, no-nonsense brakes. PERFORMANCE Getting astride the Switch SL you realise just how rideable this 'big' bike is. An all-up weight of 32.5lb makes for a very sprightly bike, making the 8lb frame almost forgettable. After a prolonged set-up with the omplicated forks a balanced feel was attained and we hit the trails. A solid platform allows the suspension to do its job and the rear sits in the mid-stroke wiithout totally blowing through the travel. Once we had got the progressive spring sorted the forks felt very similar and on rutted technical trails the Maxxis tyres really helped keep the bike on line. Oversize bar and stem combos like the Easton found here inspire confidence when taking the bike off bigger stuff and no doubt add to the accuracy felt when aboard. MBR Verdict; 'the Switch SL seems capable of anything, a lightweight machine that can climb well, take on some serious hucks and pilot you through the singletrack with aplomb...The geometry makes the bike feel almost trail-bike like in any other situation, and puts it up with the very best in those arenas'. MBR June 2005 At this year's Interbike it wasn't just the weather that was hot, there was a whole range of new bikes busting with new technologies heating up trails too. One of the newbies sporting long travel air forks and shocks as a way of stripping pounds off hardcore freeride bikes is Rocky Mountain's Switch SL. At 35lb the Switch SL is certainly a case of "Slightly Lighter" rather than "Super Light" though. The chassis uses a specific lightened "SL" version of Easton's RAD square headed top and down tube rather than the DH pipes of the Switch S1 and S3. Other than that layout is the same, with big windowed plates, forged and machined linkage sections that wouldn't look out of place on a steamship. There's still room for 2.7" tyres and full front mech compatibility though, plus enough top tube length and seat post adjustment for winching back uphill without too much suffering. With a 67.5 degree head angle handling is faster than a full DH set-up for light, precise moves on narrow boardwalk or slow speed techie stuff. A 72 degree seat angle pushes enough weight forward to keep steerage stuck down in wet or loose conditions. It still manages to stay controlled in the nastiest head plants too, and breaks traction through corners with an easily controlled rear wheel slide. The high leverage ratio used to deliver 6" of travel mean the air hock can feel overworked on really big hits and it's not as fluid as a coil unit. Yet the naturally progressive action stops it slamming out completely and the custom Pro Pedal damping is spot on for controlling pedal bounce, and the overwhelming feel is one of surefooted security however rough things get. Big Marzocchi Z1 forks are an ideal partner up front, the new TST system gives easy rebound adjustment anywhere from single hucks to braking ripples or full climbing lockouthe handbuilt wheels are super durable, complete with fancy semi-carbon front hub and rock solid grip and stability from the Minion tyres. Hayes brakes are as strong as ever with room to upgrade to an 8" rotor at the rear, and the SRAM shifters are reassuringly positive. X-Type thru axle bottom bracket gives added stiffness and strength to the Evolve cranks. No worries about the Easton EA50 bars, seatpost and Vice stem either, and it's good to see lock-on grips too. There will always be a point with hardcore bikes where you lose more in performance than you gain by dropping weight, but Rocky has been canny keeping the SL weight right. If you ride to your drop spot or provide your own power to get back to the top, then the SL will leave you with the energy for extra runs or exploring new areas with added confidence. WMB Verdict; Full phat freeride character on a lite diet.
Rocky Mountain 2006 Slayer 90 Bike Reviews Reviews of Rocky Mountain's all new, top of the range, Slayer 90 Canadian all-mountain 6" travel super-bike Rocky Mountain Slayer 90 Bike Rides like an XC bike, takes a beating like a downhill bike. If that isn't the quintessential definition of a true All-Mountain bike, we don't know what is. Ride the new Slayer and you'll snap through tight switchbacks, berms, and technical sections at white-knuckle speed, and climb big ascents like a billy goat on steroids. What sets the Slayer apart, however, is you get this superb All-Mountain versatility in a superior suspension technology that gives you that 'right' feeling of confidence during epic climbs and rugged descents. Rocky Mountain Slayer 90 Spec Sheet • Frame: Easton 7005 FS Custom Taperwall Aluminum • Frame Weight: 3.2 kg / 7.04 lb (18.0") (peso SIN amortiguador) • Fork: Fox 36 Talas RC2 • Front Travel: 160 MM • Rear Shock: FOX Float RP3 - Custom valved • Rear Travel: 152 MM • Headset: FSA Orbit-X Pro • Stem: Race Face Deus XC - 31.8 MM • Handlebar: Race Face Atlas XC Riser - 31.8 MM • Brakes: Avid Juicy 7 • Brake Levers: Avid Juicy 7 • Shifters: SRAM XO Triggers • Gearing (RR/FR): SRAM 9.0 / Shimano XT • Cranks & Chainrings: RACE FACE Deus X-Type • Bottom Bracket: RACE FACE Deus X-Type • Pedals: Crank Brothers Candy • Hubs (RR/FR): Mavic Crossmax XL • Cog-Set: SRAM PG-980 • Chain: SRAM PC-971 • Spokes: Mavic Crossmax XL • Rims: Mavic Crossmax XL • Tires (RR/FR): IRC Mibro 2.25" • Seat Post: Race Face Deus XC • Saddle: SDG Grand Prix Wanna know how the world's media rate the Rocky Mountain Slayer 90 all-mountain rig? Read on to find out more... 2006 Slayer is named Bike Of The Year Rocky Mountain Bicycles' ongoing commitment to creating the world's best bikes has been acknowledged once again by the biking community. "Being named Mountain Biking Magazines' 2006 All-Mountain bike of the year is a tremendous honour for us," said Jean Poisson, General Manager of Rocky Mountain Bikes. "Our goal was to create the definitive all-mountain bike that offered an exceptional riding experience with uncompromised quality at a great price point, and we delivered on all counts." The critics seem to agree with Poisson. The 2006 Slayer 70 beat out several other top contenders for the coveted Bike Of The Year spot by offering "...a quality ride that is similar to others [but] for thousands of dollars less without a compromise in build" [Mountain Biking Magazine]. The new Slayer, which is redesigned for 2006, is available in four models, each featuring the same frame but with different components. "Two major differences in the new Slayer," said Poisson, "is the new frame geometry with its lower stand over height, and a super-rigid rear linkage and single pivot suspension. You have a lower centre of gravity for an incredibly solid ride." Mountain Biking Magazine found the bike to be "...super stable, both front and rear, and side-to-side...[and] at speed the tires stick to the ground like glue so you have the speed to charge even harder." Poisson was also quoted as saying, "The bike is designed to climb all day, then turn around and charge the rough stuff on the way down. I think the best testament to the Slayer came from the magazine's testers who said, '[It] isn't a freeride bike; it's the very definition of what all-mountain biking should be." Rocky Mountain Bikes, who celebrate their 25th anniversary this year, designs, tests and crafts their quiver of high-quality, hand-built bikes in their Delta, BC factory. Rocky Mountain positions the new Slayer in the middle of the new Enduro-Class. A jump ahead? The only radical feature on the old Slayer was the name. The somehow upgraded "Element" was more of a solid bike for longer trips than a dangerous freeride-weapon. This has now changed totally. Only the name is still the same, all other things were redesigned: a reinforced mainframe with a strongly bent top tube provides a lot of standover height. Rocky still prefers a rear triangle single pivot system with multiple linkage. The damper, though, is linked in a quite complicated way with several small levers. The design comes from Rocky Mountain's freeride-model the "RMX". The aim is to get a very low center of gravity and a maximum of travel for this now totally enduro-orientated bike. The new looks come with changes of the riding characteristics and will give you a smile from ear to ear on the trail. The Slayer has evolved to a pure fun bike. You are positioned very centered on the bike, you feel at home instantly. From going with the flow on singletracks, high speed downhills on gravel roads to steep and mean freeride routes - there is no moaning with the Slayer. A big plus is the chassis. "Only" 6 inches on the rear but it feels like way more. The new Fox 36 gives you over 6 inches travel and is very stiff while steering. On downhills and in singetracks the new Slayer is a superb performer. But the question is; can you still go on a longer trip with it? On one hand 14kg isn't much for an enduro bike with these riding qualities. On the other hand the geometry feels more suitable for downhills. The rider's position is quite upright and set back a little bit. This is not perfect for pedalling efficiency in longer uphill sections. On the middle chainring the rear dives in a tiny bit when there is power on the chain - a negligible point that a lot of bikers can live with easily, most won't even notice. SUMMARY: The new Slayer transformed from a tourer to a real enduro freeride lite bike. Mountain bikers seeking fun get their dream bike. Grade of innovation: high Price-to-performance: medium
Que bonita la Switch que has puesto Edgar!!! Un amigo, hasta hace poco, ha rodado con una Slayer que engordó con una Totem para darle a los Bike Parks en verano y se movia bastante bién. Es tragona, si bloqueas puedes subir sin sacrificios y como han comentado más atrás, si la armas con algo más gordito que un Rp23 te quedará una buena arma polivalente. A mi siempre me ha gustado mucho esa bici.
yo tengo una slayer 50 del 2007,y de peso la tengo sobre los 15,5KG ,subiendo se comporta bien y bajando mejor,tambien te digo que los saltos mas altos que puedo hacer son sobre 2 metros y sin planazos que decian por ahi,yo creo que es una bici para enduro muy buena,en cuanto a angulo,tragar,estoy contento con ella y con el dh5 tiene que ir de maravilla,yo la llevo con el rp23 y una marzochi 55 del 2009
yo llevo mi slayer sxc con una lyrik coil 2010 de 170 y va impresionantemente bien.. si cierras el propedal del dhx sube muy bien, si se lo abres se mueve y da una traccion brutal, bajando... estoy infinitametne lejos deponerla en problemas..... la 2011 empieza a agradarme... auqneu esteticametne me gusta mas la mia
