Novedades 2017 *The Post*

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  1. Carlitoss...

    Carlitoss... Bicicleteador

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    M´han tirau bro!!
    Tú nunca te equivocas mi amollll...
    Eso parece Alu no es...
     
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  2. ray

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    Carlitoss... Bicicleteador

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    No tienes lo que hay que tener y me amenazas n privado?? :eek::eek::eek:
     
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    Con dos *******, y aquí si no vas con placa te crujen, de todos modos lo hace bien, no vaya a ser que le de la cadena en la baca del techo de la furgoneta y se rompa cualquiera de las dos cosas
     
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    Este año ya se han pasado cn las ruedas anchas, ahora van ponerlas a pares...

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    Si en TRON hubiesen hecho MTB...
     
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    Y con un Pinion...!!!!
    Y la cadena....??? A través de las ruedas...???
     
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    Dios me libre de semejante felonía.....!!!
    Pero tengo a punto a los sicarios para lo que convenga.....
     
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    eso es de lusers:p, mejor rigida:)
     
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    Pues ya no la quiero.
     
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    esa es la actitud;):D
     
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    bajar , bajarás, pero subir? como no sea en el camion que ha puesto el caloggero? que barbaridadhttps://youtu.be/Z4PYo3QHn0w
     
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    Atencion a la entrevista al jefe de Spank en Pinkbike... Ha soltado un par de perlas impresionantes y con las que estoy bastante de acuerdo.

    [​IMG] You seem reluctant to make the change towards carbon products. What's the reason for that?

    Well, I've been in and out of factories in Asia since carbon really took off about 15 years ago. I've seen the level of production capability, and I feel that carbon as a product is under spec’d in the bicycle industry. There is a place for carbon, but I think it's on the elite two to five percent of professional-use products.

    I think the problems are in the way it's used now, it's become a work horse material, it's become cheaply produced and in unsustainable ways. I feel that you can get a better cost-to-performance ratio out of alloy than you can get out of carbon today, and with a readily recyclable material. The environmental and ethical concerns raise a major red flag. It's not that I'm anti-carbon, but I'm 'anti-the-way-that-it's-being-used.' It's become a low-cost material and not an exclusive material.

    I also feel that the industry is being irresponsible in the way that it's promoted and pushed carbon for mass-appeal. For an industry like the bicycle industry, which is considered to be relatively 'green,' I believe it's time to start educating consumers about the consequences of their purchases, and address the relevance of high volume carbon manufacturing in light of ethical and environmental impacts.

    [​IMG] Very interesting...

    Yeah, I mean there's a second part to that, and that's the cost implication. As I said before, I feel that carbon played a detrimental role in the windsurfing industry because the product became too expensive. I feel that we are potentially losing new and young consumers because they might not be in a position to afford carbon, therefore they may choose not to participate in biking because they can't get what's perceived to be a cool product. I think that's a secondary concern, that we might be alienating ourselves from new consumers.

    [​IMG] You said that happened in windsurfing?

    That's my personal opinion, and I share that stance with quite a few other opinion leaders in that area, but it definitely had a massive negative effect on the board sailing scene.

    [​IMG] It'll be interesting to see if the same happens in the mountain biking industry.

    I think it's already happening to some extent and that is why we have had an agenda at Spank for some time now to ensure that we can deliver responsibly manufactured, safe, affordable alternatives in alloy.
     
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  18. jallll

    jallll post navideño... uffff

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    Mmm.. me recuerda mucho a la opinión sobre el carbono de máx comensal. ... no??
     
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  19. StrangeAttractor

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    Sobre el medio ambiente no voy a entrar mucho aunq comparado con otras cosas no creo q haya tantas bicis de carbono como para suponer un problema en comparación con otras industrias pero bueno, eso es opinable
    Pero lo otro? No me jodas, si la bici de DH mas barata q puedes encontrar nueva esta en 2400 euros y os aseguro q el carbono ni lo huele. Lo q cierra el mercado a nuevos no es precio del Carbono, es el precio de cualquier cosa de la bici, sea de acero, aluminio , carbono o plástico y corchopan como es el caso de un casco.
     
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    Lo q si es verdad es que si un cuadro de carbono vale 1000 euros más que el equivalente en aluminio e inviertes esos 1000 en los componentes en vez de en el cuadro casi siempre sale mejor
     
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