Los ingleses no son tontos y se están dando cuenta de que con las últimas declaraciones de Ron Dennis se está confirmando la tería de la conspiración contra Alonso. Lo dice The Times, no el As o el Marca. Slip of the tongue by Ron Dennis adds fuel to Fernando Alonso conspiracy theory Edward Gorman, Motor Racing Correspondent Ron Dennis, the team principal of the McLaren Mercedes Formula One team, let one very large cat out of a very expensive bag after Lewis Hamilton’s retirement from the Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai on Sunday. Speaking about the disastrous decision to delay Hamilton’s tyre change, which led to the British rookie sliding off the track while trying to get into the pits, Dennis said something that will have convinced Fernando Alonso’s supporters that there is a conspiracy within the team against their hero. “The problem was rain and his [Hamilton’s] tyres were in the worst condition,” Dennis said to a group of British journalists in the paddock at the circuit. “But we weren’t at all fazed about Kimi [Raikkonen, of Ferrari]. We weren’t racing Kimi, we were basically racing Fernando.” Slip of the tongue it may have been – there were efforts by McLaren to explain it away - but, in one stroke, Dennis had made a nonsense of his claims to be treating his drivers equitably in the World Championship run-in. What is more, Dennis’s remarks have turned into articles of faith the deep suspicions in Spain and elsewhere that McLaren could be deliberately doctoring Alonso’s car to present the championship to Hamilton. In large parts of the motor-racing world, it is regarded as gospel that Alonso is battling against not only Hamilton but also the whole McLaren team for his third consecutive drivers’ championship. Background Hamilton error opens title race Hamilton: I’ll learn from mistake Cheers as Britain’s hero finishes in gravel Background Champion hoping for luck in Brazil finale Hamilton: I can still do it, don't worry Dennis refuses to blame Hamilton Multimedia Ed Gorman's F1 blog Related Links Hamilton error opens title race Multimedia Disaster for Lewis It is possible that the public will never know for certain exactly what is going on in a team who have been torn apart by the feud between their drivers and between Alonso and Dennis. The team principal says that McLaren are treating their drivers fairly and giving them equal chances to win, while Alonso says – or implies – that he is being cheated of his chance. One element that does seem to be becoming increasingly obvious is that McLaren as an organisation have, in recent weeks, turned their collective backs on Alonso. The team are going through the motions with their unhappy Spaniard, but are deriving very little pleasure from the process and it is undoubtedly the case that, as a group, they would prefer to see Hamilton win the title. In Spain, this regrettable state of affairs is regarded as having held sway since near the beginning of the season. In truth, there is little evidence to suggest that Alonso had anything other than a clean slate when he arrived at McLaren. But his unsportsmanlike attitude to the challenge of trying to beat Hamilton, plus his allegedly threatening behaviour towards Dennis and recent refusal to deny suggestions of “car-fixing”, have pushed him beyond the pale. McLaren go to Interlagos next week for the Brazilian Grand Prix in a strange condition indeed. The team will be delighted if Hamilton wins his maiden world title, but the celebrations will be muted if Alonso snatches it from the Briton at the death. The saddest part about the affair is that Alonso will have made history himself if he does prevail in Brazil. He will have become the first driver since Juan Manuel Fangio to win consecutive titles with different constructors, but the team who gave him the car to do it will barely, if at all, share in his joy. During another trying weekend for Alonso in China, he explained his view of McLaren, a team who he says have failed to treat him with the respect that he believes he deserves as a two-times world champion. “I was expecting a lot more,” Alonso said. “From the outside, the team had a different image: serious, but very professional. I improved the car as much as I could. Last year they were fighting to make it into Q3 [the third section of qualifying] and this year they are going to win the [drivers’] championship, and the truth is that the treatment has not been very good.” When asked if the way he had been treated was deserving of a two-times champion, Alonso said: “Not a double champion, but a normal person.” And he again denied that he had been given a fair chance in his battle with Hamilton. “You are always hearing about that so-called equality in the team, but tell me what you brag about and I’ll tell you what you are lacking,” he said. “It’s impossible to have equality in a Formula One team; there’s always a better engine, a better lap to stop in. There’s always a better option. “I’m not saying it’s not equality, because sometimes it’s one driver’s turn and other times it’s the other’s, but you always hear him [Dennis] talk about that or promising things and it’s not like that.”
Como puede ser este tío director de un equipo de F1 y descubrirse de tal manera. " No luchamos contra Raikkonen, sino contra Alonso" como puede ser tan limitado...
Se añade emoción: Nakajima confirmado en Brasil con williams http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/10/6963.html Puede pecar de novato? Y darle sin querer a luisito..?
Jontomac, te gusta llevarme la contraria eh? :mrgreen: je...jee Claro que la prensa extranjera también inventa bulos, pero en comparación con la española da bastante menos asco. Desde luego siempre me entero antes de las sanciones y de las noticias ''REALES'' por la prensa extranjera, ya sea alemana, inglesa, o francesa (esta última pocas veces..)
De granprix.com, hablan de comprar un chasis viejo... Prodrive looking for options Prodrive has admitted that it may not be able to take up its place on the Formula 1 grid next year because the sport cannot sort out its differences are come up with a new Concorde Agreement. The Prodrive entry is being challenged at the FIA International Court of Appeal by Williams which argues that if the 2007 Concorde Agreement is rolled over into 2008 - as is now the plan - then Prodrive caannot use customer McLarens. The delays in the programme, even without the case, mean that McLaren and Prodrive have now agreed that it is too late to go ahead as planned and while Prodrive says it is looking at other options, it is clear that none will be possible short of buying a very old F1 car and struggling around at the back of the grid, which is not what Prodrive had in mind when it made an entry. This situation was created 18 months ago when the FIA tried to force the existing F1 teams to sign up for the World Championship and thus accept the FIA's new rules packages with the threat that they would be replaced by other teams wanting to break into F1 with customer cars. A number of teams bid for the available 12th team slot and Prodrive was chosen. The F1 teams, however, have never agreed to the customer car idea and as this is enshrined in the Concorde Agreement the FIA cannot insist on anything as everything must be agreed between the different parties involved. This agreement has not been possible and so its has been decided that in order for the sport to have a package in place to meet its commercial commitments the only way forward is to roll on the old agreement for another year. The trouble with this is that if this is the case there can be no customer teams. That means Prodrive is out and that the same problem couldd befall Super Aguri and Scuderia Toro Rosso if the arbitrators of the Concorde Agreement decide that the currents cars are in breach of the agreement. That will mean that the two teams will lose all their results this year and will have to build their own cars in 2008. It is not clear whether they can do this but with both teams likely to change owners shortly there are possibilities of buying old chassis - although these will not be competitive. Thus we are looking at a situation in which the sport may lose three teams (two existing and one planned) because of its political arguing. Traducción: Tras la incertidumbre que han generado las últimas informaciones sobre la reglamentación para el próximo año, el propietario de Prodrive, David Richards, ha descartado oficialmente la posibilidad de utilizar el mismo chasis y motor que McLaren Mercedes la próxima temporada. "No podemos seguir los planes que teníamos previstos con McLaren," ha comentado el británico según informa la agencia de noticias Reuters. "No podremos utilizar un coche exactamente igual desde el principio, no es posible," añadía Richards, que no descartaba sin embargo la posibilidad de usar un chasis híbrido o un coche distinto pero de forma conjunta. La principal dificultad para Prodrive es la ambigüedad de la normativa 'coche cliente' para 2008. Williams enviaba recientemente una carta de protesta a la FIA y Max Mosley derivaba el tema de la legalidad de Prodrive al Tribunal de Apelación, que decidirá a finales de octubre. Pero incluso aunque el nuevo Acuerdo de la Concordia para 2008 todavía no está listo, Richards insiste en que Prodrive está 'convencido de que participará en la Fórmula Uno.' "Entretanto, consideraremos todas nuestras alternativas para la próxima temporada," añadía Richards. En marzo de 2006, la FIA invitaba a todos los interesados en incorporarse al Campeonato del Mundo de F1 en 2008 a presentar sus candidaturas 22 equipos lo hicieron – incluidos los 11 actuales - y finalmente Prodrive fue la candidatura ganadora y la que se hizo con el 12º puesto en la parrilla de la F1 para el próximo año.
Aquí os dejo un video de una liguilla en la cual estoy inscrito con el ferrari nº 06 de kimmi raikönen :matrix Sí, son los skin del año pasado, pues estamos aconstumbrados a hacer ya los setup del mod anterior, y el de este año cambia muchísimo. Quedé 2º saliendo 4º aunque la carrera se va a repetir este domingo por problemas con el server. Se me puede distinguir por el bonito pique con el renault y también con un honda. No pude luchar por la victoria porque trompeé, pero bueno ya llegará.. Una especial dedicación a los rojillos :meaman http://stage6.divx.com/user/fr33alex/video/1728654/FOCA-fsone-Gp-China-2007-www-simulaonline-com
***** que guapo el juego donde hay que meterse para competir en las liguillas esas?¿ PD : Si quieres me lo puedes decir por mp
Estos eran los candidatos: * Prodrive (David Richards) * Minardi (Paul Stoddart) * Jordan GP (Eddie Jordan) * Direxiv (Jean Alesi) * Racing Engineering * BCN Competición * Eddie Irvine * Craig Pollock * ART Grand Prix (Nicolas Todt) * Carlin Motorsport * Piquet Sports y este el anuncio 09:39 / La escudería Prodrive se incorporará a la Fórmula 1 en 2008 La FIA decidió que el equipo que dirige David Richards ingrese a la máxima categoría del automovilismo mundial. “Posee la mejor combinación de respaldo financiero, capacidad técnica y experiencia”, argumentó Max Mosley. La resolución postergó el sueño del argentino Enrique Scalabroni, quien está a cargo de BCN Competición. La Federación Internacional de Automovilismo (FIA) anunció hoy que el equipo británico Prodrive podrá participar a partir de 2008 en el campeonato mundial de Fórmula 1, que por primera vez desde 1997 volverá a contar con doce equipos. Prodrive es propiedad del ex jefe de BAR-Honda, David Richards, y tiene mucha experiencia en el mundo del motor. Gestionó durante los años 90 el equipo oficial de Subaru que obtuvo seis títulos mundiales en el Mundial de Rally. Un total de 22 equipos habían solicitado esa nueva plaza, entre ellos el español BCN Competición, que dirige el ingeniero argentino Enrique Scalabroni. Los once equipos actuales fueron aceptados: Renault, McLaren-Mercedes, Williams, Ferrari, Super Aguri, BMW-Sauber, Honda, Red Bull, Toro Rosso, Midland y Toyota. "Prodrive posee la mejor combinación de respaldo financiero, capacidad técnica y experiencia y es bien conocido por su participación en el mundial de Rally", fundamentó la elección el máximo responsable de la FIA, Max Mosley. Richards planea crear su propia fábrica de Fórmula 1. "Es una noticia fantástica para nuestra empresa", dijo. Pese a la gran cantidad de candidatos que solicitaron un lugar en la Fórmula 1, la serie no crecerá en el futuro. "La limitación a 12 equipos fue acordada por motivos de seguridad. Esa cifra seguramente no aumentará", dijo Mosley. y mosley hablando sobre los equipos cliente Mosley: F1 needs customer cars Tuesday, 24, April, 2007, 13:14 FIA president Max Mosley says that allowing customer cars is vital for Formula 1's future competitiveness. Under the new-for-2008 rules, teams will be able to buy chassis from other outfits rather than having to design and build their own cars. Prodrive has already announced that its new F1 team will be a customer project. Mosley told the Reuters news agency that the enormous resources required to build a competitive chassis meant that smaller teams were doomed to struggle if customer cars were not permitted. "There are all sorts of commercial discussions going on but, to me, it's self evident that Formula 1 hasn't got enough money for 12 different teams to have 12 research and development programmes, 12 wind tunnels, 12 organisations getting on for 1,000 employees (each)," he said. "That means you either have 'customer cars' or you have people struggling at the back of the grid being lapped four times in the race. "To me it's obvious you should have the customer cars. "Whether you have four cars of a given make or two on the grid, it doesn't seem to matter. "They will all look completely different anyway."
Sí, mira, el juego en cuestión se llama rFactor. Tienes que comprar la licencia a la 'fuerza' sino te dará problemas el juego, y te aseguro que son 35 más que amortizados, pues casi todos los días sacan mods nuevos GRATIS en www.rfactorcentral.com Yo compito en f1 en www.simulaonline.com Un saludete
lo que va a pasar en brasil: 1º alonso 2ºraikonen 3ºneskuik 4º massa entonces alonso se raska los webos con la copa de lante de colakao y kacike se la lleva a su kasa a colacao se le van las tonterias alonso se va a renault y sopla a tos FUFUUUUUU
Pa este viaje no hacian falta alforjas......... Modo: Tocandoloshuevosalosalonsistas en ON :angel :angel :angel :angel
Y la prensa inglesa ahi ahi anda...a amarilla no le gana nadie. Para mi todas se estan pasando de fanaticas inventando bulos para mantener entretenido al lector. Es lo que hay! Saludos.
En vista de la situación, ya no veo nada claro que Alonso se quede en Mclata para '08. Yo de el, antes de quedarme, les denuncio por sabotaje. Correr con las presiones muy altas tambien implica poner en juego la seguridad del coche, y por tanto, la integridad del piloto....A Williams ya le pasó algo de esto con lo de Senna, y por supuesto, no hubo mala fe.... Nadie comenta nada de lo de Modena?? Hablando de justicia ordinaria.
Para que veais que no todos los ingleses simpatizan con tito Ronn, aquí va un ejemplo: http://www.pitboard.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=41547 Uno dice que le van a quitar los frenos, otro que no le cargaran gasolina cuando pare, otro que le quitarán una rueda etc.. jaja
