hay se cuela un inspector de trabajo con la normativa de seguridad europea y le cierra el chiringuito en 0,2 seg. es como los pasatiempos, cuantas infracciones en seguridad ves en cada foto...y marcadas con una cruz, en fin q lo barato por algo es.
Pues no entiendo el sentido del post...deberíais ver algunos talleres (por ejemplo en Madrid) donde se le ha llegado a soldar una trasera a Nico Vouilloz....y no se diferencia nada más que en los ojos rasgados...o pensais que los cuadros se sueldan en instalaciones como la NASA?
Tendríais que ver dónde y en qué condiciones se sueldan las estructuras metálicas de los edificios. Lo digo por experiencia.
Pues yo no veo tan malas las condiciones de trabajo para ser China la verdad... Lo único malo que veo son los tristes ventiladores en una nave de chapa. En verano tiene que ser un festival del humor sin aire acondicionado. Y sin embargo en la foto del exterior de la empresa se ve que las oficinas si tienen aire grrrrrr.
Pues precisamente el sentido del post es comprobar, para el que no lo sepa, que los chinos trabajan igual que los yankies de las grandes marcas...en algunos casos la tecnología es incluso mejor... Eso sí,los yankis cuidan mucho más el marketing y la imagen exterior de la empresa y de las naves...y tienen leyes medioambientales mucho más restrictivas Por si alguien está interesado: The bike biz by Dan Empfield, Sept-Oct '02 (<:: Welcome to Slowtwitch.com ::>) En una parte de este artículo dice lo siguiente: THE TAIWANESE FACTORY There are two kinds of factories in Taiwan: those which make parts for the bike biz, and those which just make parts. It is eminently preferable to find the latter, and the best agents in Taiwan are those which can ferret out a factory that can forge, machine and polish a hub shell; or extrude, draw and butt a #7005 tube, without knowing that it's for a bicycle. The latter is important because there are economic precedents associated with the bike industry. If you go to a crank maker and ask that shop to forge and machine a crank, and broach and coin the square-hole, you're going to pay a certain "industry" price. Likewise, if you go to a stem maker and ask for a stem, you'll pay for a stem. If, however, you find yourself a good quality 3-D forging factory that can forge you a rather complicated tube, that factory doesn't need to know how a stem works in order to perform that job. What you'll need, however, is your own engineering capabilities, your own testing facility, and your own CAD-CAM-literate designers. This factory can make you your stem, but it can't tell you if it'll break. If you need your factory to tell you that as well, you'll have to get your stem made at a factory that makes bicycle stems, and you'll pay a premium for that. Likewise with any other process. There's the bike industry price, and there's the not-bike-industry price, if you know where to look. This is where hard work and pavement-pounding comes in. I've been lucky to know certain people who were good at pounding the pavement and finding the best factory and the lowest price. This dynamic doesn't work with frames, however. You've got to get your frames made at a frame factory, because bike frames must be incredibly precise. It always makes me chuckle when I see somebody come into the bike biz from some "higher" industry, thinking that because he's been making car parts or tank turrets or airplanes or speedboats it's just got to be simpler making bikes. What these people don't realize is that the tolerances one must hold in this business are at least as close as as in just about any other industry. Consider this: I (when I was in the biz) would reject cranksets if the total runout exceeded one tenth of one millimeter at the large chainring. That means the bottom bracket, and the squarehole cut into the crank, must be absolutely perfect, and the crankarm absolutely straight. It means the metal must be sufficiently hard at that joint so as not to deflect under the heavily leveraged load applied at the pedal. Very, very hard to do. Likewise, frames are hard to make, if you want them to be straight. It's very hard to make a frame in which the rear wheel is centered inside the chainstays, and centered underneath the rear brake hole, and where the front and rear triangle are true to each other, and where the head tube is parallel to the seat tube. It's so hard to do that, that I've seen manufacturing companies that make very precision car parts just throw up their hands after years of trying to make frames and say, "It can't be done." That's why cycling is its own industry, and those who do it well can command a premium. The smart product manager or agent knows what it's safe to have have manufactured at a non-cycling facility, and when you've got to go to a factory that knows the bike biz. Probably even more intricate than a frame factory is an assembly factory. Assembling a bike isn't easy if you need to do it in a hurry. I've got a full bike shop in my garage, and it'll still take me two-thirds of a day to build up a complete tri bike. I don't know how many man-hours go into assembling a bike in a Taiwan assembly factory, but I'd guess it's measured in minutes. I wouldn't be surprised to know that a bike is assembled in 15 minutes, though those "minutes" are spread out over ten or fifteen different workers along an assembly line. When I told my friend Steve Hed that I was writing this series, he laughed and said, "I wonder what the environmentally-minded among your readers will think about cycling after you tell them about Taiwan!" Of course it's "green" to ride bikes in place of cars. Making bikes is another story. It's a dirty business. Certain rivers in Taiwan are absolutely sterile of life because of what factories dump into them, and the bike factories are no exception. It's sorry to see, because Taiwan is, in its natural state, not unlike Hawaii. It's a tropical paradise with mountains that reach 13,000 feet into the sky. But when I go running in Taipei I have to take a taxi 2000 feet up Yanming Mountain, just outside of town, so that I can run above the thick belt of smog. That's frankly one of the allures to having your bike made in Taiwan or Mainland China. Your paint is on that frame for good. There's no way any shop in America would be allowed to use the sort of paint, or the processes, that are used in the Orient. What it does to the environment, or to the workers who make the product, is another story. But it must also be noted that the investment in bike-building infrastructure is much greater there. There is a terrific amount of automation. The sorts of robots you see in film clips of auto factories are in place in Taiwan, making bike frames and parts. It would be rare to see anything like that in the U.S. Bike building in this country is limited to the realm of the artisan, with the exception of small factories and the very few large ones, like what you'd see in Trek's Waterloo factory, or where Cannondale makes its bikes in the Eastern states. Perhaps you're getting the picture that many bike "manufacturers" don't do very much manufacturing. While Fuji bikes are made at Fuji's Japanese factory, and KHS's bikes are made in KHS's Taipei factory, and while Litespeeds are made at Litespeed's Chattanooga factory, Specialized doesn't, to my knowledge, own a factory at all (outside the few bikes it makes stateside, which are a small fraction of what it sells overall). I could be wrong about that, but if I am, it's only in recent years that that's changed. This is no slam against Specialized. Nike doesn't make footwear. Neither does Reebok. Most of these companies are just design houses, with sales and marketing offices, and smart CFOs that keep track of the money in and the money out. Those who actually make bikes have, in the main, never heard of Lance Armstrong or Eddy Merckx, and in any case they don't live in towns where recreational cycling would be advised.
Pues no me parecen unas malas instalaciones ni mucho menos. Lo único que le achaco es que un poco mas de luz en la zona de trabajo no estaría de más. Comparando esto con cualquier central térmica (por experiencia propia) es el paraíso de la limpieza. En lo que respecta a los cuadros, las soldaduras son un poco... "rudas" pero supongo que aguanten perfectamente.
amos a ver, si en los puestos de soldadura los "tubos" de aspiracion de gases los tienen los colegas detras del cuello???? despues de jamarse todo el gas, lo q sobra para la extraccion... hay miles de cosas, pero lo q mas me choca es eso, aun asi, aqui en españa he visto empresas muchisimo peor q esta.
A mi parece un taller perfectamente normal, no muy distinto a los que vi cuando trabaja en carpintería metálica.
A mi siempre me han dicho que los chinos duermen en el tajo ¿Alguien ve las camas? o ¿duemen encima de los bancos?
