Black Super Air SPV VS Reba Race U-Turn Poplock

esa es la q trae la mia,creo..

GRACIAS!! :wink:

 

asi q al final t has pillado una radon??

grandes bicis,la verdad es q creo q no las conocia nadie hasta q tu nos abristes los ojos. :mrgreen:

 

Radon?? no..

 

la q tenga cambio de recorrido..... hazme caso pichote.....

 

pues cuel es killo??? :scratch

q ya tengo al mosca detras de la oreja,o es q hasta q no la tengas entre las piernas y con fotos no quieres decirlo?? :wink:

 

pero si ya te lo he dicho.. :wink:

leete mi ultimo mensaje.. :mrgreen:

 

la reba es una horquilla de follaor, t lo digo yo q no la llevo...... :? :mrgreen:

 

ja ja si se follara tanto dando pedales como saliendo en la tele....

 

Cube :fumador

 

Que conste que no tengo nada que ver con Rock Shox, y aúnque en los últimos tiempos la pifiaron bastante, yo me decantaría por la Reba. Me da mejores sensaciones, la verdad. Y estéticamente me gusta más.

Por cierto no creo que te descubra nada pero en barracuda ahora estan de oferta las Reba... http://www.barracuda.be/en/find;sessionId=3a66ace9ea58623c48b1df4ed6c1696c?r=RSFOURERAUT

Creo que Africa se había agenciado una, ¿ ya podría ir contando alguna cosita no :wink: ?

 

Es que me cuesta hacerme con las nuevas tecnologías...y eso que soy informático jeje.

¿ Se podría decir que el SPV de Manitou y el Motion Control Damping de RS vienen a ser lo mismo ?

 

Reba. Tengo un amigo con la Black Super air del año pasado y muy mal de holguras. 6 meses de uso, pero de uso de verdad (2500 km, barro, baja muy fuerte y manguera a presión para lavar) y está para cambiar de casquillos. Tiene una holgura tremenda y flexa bastante. Al princicipio solamente se apreciaba al estar en 80, pero ahora con todos los recorridos.

Mira que no me mola un pijo la fiabilidad de RS, pero por las baras de 32, el bloqueo que me parece más intuitivo, los problemas que he visto de la Manitou y lo bien que hablan de ella (sobre todo en las revistas :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ) parece que va a ser lo mejor. Y que conste que no me mola un pijo RS.

 

yo me pillaria la reba de la race no se el precio pero la tope de gama la team u-turn proloc cuesta en usa 510 dolares osea 429 euros al cambio y en inglaterra cuesta 339 libras que en euros son 481 euros

 

No es lo mismo pero el funcionamiento es parecido. El MCD es un muelle de plastico que al comprimirse deja al descubierto una segunda entrada de aceite al circuito, dependiendo de como se regule puede parecerse al SPV o al Umbral de bloqueo de Fox.


Un saludo.

 

os dejo esto x si a alguien le interesa..

'05 Rock Shox Reba Race full review (updated)! Posted By: AngryAsian
Rock Shox received a fair amount of criticism in the year after their acquisition by SRAM. They may not have had much in the way of new product for '04, but they clearly weren't resting on their laurels as evident in the new Pike and Reba platforms. I was only able to ride the Pike lineup at the press launch last February so I won't go much in depth with it here, but I've been fortunate enough to have been riding a full-production Reba Race U-Turn for the last couple of months, and let's just say it's been pretty fun...
The Reba is a completely new, lightweight all-mountain chassis, featuring 32mm Easton EA70 stanchions and beefy one-piece magnesium disc-only lowers with 85-115mm of infinitely-adjustable travel, all in a package weighing about 3.8lbs with a 7.5" steerer and including the remote (which coincidentally, is exactly what it's supposed to weigh). Although the specs seem awfully similar to those of the Fox Float/Vanilla chassis, the Rock Shox chassis may have raised the stiffness ante even more with the dropped skirts on the crown and the shorter, more compact, and more deeply webbed arch (more resistant to twisting than a flatter brace). Thankfully, the dropouts are appropriately burly-looking given this fork's intended purpose in life, so there shouldn't be any unexpected "mishaps" (see earlier news article). Most of the ancillary knobs/caps (even the air caps!) are made from nicely machined aluminum, and as in years past, the travel settings are nicely marked directly on the stanchions for easy reading.

Inside, this particular Reba Race features Rock Shox' new U-Turn Air system. This is wholly analogous to their outstanding coil-sprung U-Turn system, but now in a lighter-weight and more tunable package, courtesy of the Dual Air system. Unlike some other "travel-adjustable" forks, U-Turn conveniently automatically adjusts the spring rate and bottom-out characteristics along with the travel, so the shorter travel settings aren't too stiff and the longer ones aren't too soft. The real story, however, is the new Motion Control damping. It's no secret that Pure wasn't perfect; it was hyper-sensitive to air in the damping chamber, and many found the system to be too progressive and not robust enough for hard use. The beauty of Motion Control is in its simplicity: rather than have a multitude of shims or a complicated variable air pressure system, MC works by using a simple plastic "spring tube" (yes, I said PLASTIC!!!!! Get over it; metal wouldn't work in this application so quit your bitching). This spring tube, in concert with the spring-loaded Floodgate "blowoff" valve in the center, provides terrain-variable and externally adjustable compression valving. This new compression damper design includes a low-speed compression adjuster (with lockout capability) and the Floodgate, an adjustable secondary circuit. The low-speed compression circuit isn't anything terribly revolutionary; it's basically a relatively simple orifice-type damper with an adjustable port size (the little silver disc rotates to expose more or less oil port). Typically, simple orifice dampers (basically a small hole through which the damping oil is forced through) can be set to perform well in either low-speed conditions (such as brake dive) or high-speed conditions (hitting bumps at speed) but can't handle both equally well since the damping rate is not "speed-sensitive"; i.e., you'll get compression spiking on bigger/faster hits if the damping is set high enough to control brake dive, or you'll get a lot of wallowing in low-speed conditions if the damper is set relatively open so as to handle more severe impacts. What separates Motion Control apart from other orifice-type dampers, though, is the Floodgate. The secondary Floodgate circuit can be thought of in simple terms as an adjustable blow-off valve if you want, but unlike Fox's RLC-type damper (which is only active when the fork is locked out), the Floodgate works all the time, more like Marzocchi's HSCV damper. Conceptually, it might be easier to think of the Floodgate as an adjustable high-speed compression circuit with a really wide adjustment range. Sure, you can use it just as a blow-off valve when locked out, but you can also, for example, adjust things as follows:


Low-speed damping set pretty firm for a good pedaling platform and reduced brake dive, but with a relatively open Floodgate setting so that the fork still absorbs bumps, especially fast/big or square-edged ones.

Low-speed compression damping relatively open for excellent small-bump sensitivity, but firm Floodgate for resistance to bottoming on really burly stuff.

Low-speed compression damping and Floodgate both relatively open for a super plush ride, letting the fork eat up small bumps and big ones, giving you a nicely linear, coil-spring-like feel.


The first example setting is similar to what many of you already do with your Fox RLC dampers by running them locked out all the time but with a low blow-off threshold, but you currently can't mimic the other two. The best part about the new damper, though, is its amazing simplicity. There are astoundingly few parts in the assembly and the system is incredibly easy to service; just set the oil height, drop in the compression assembly, and off you go (no more elaborate bleed procedures!). The rebound damper isn't terribly different from the current design, although it now has greater oil flow for more consistent damping performance in varying conditions. The new PopLoc Adjust remote couldn't be a more natural fit unless you don't have a left thumb (check out how well they fit next to one of their trigger shifters). The paddle is wide and easily accessible, and the grey release button sits right where the end of your thumb would be. The adjustable PopLoc remote also adds a nifty little dial (in blue-anodized aluminum, I might add) to set where you would like the default low-speed compression damper setting to be (meaning you don't always have to go back to the full-open position like with the standard PopLoc or the old remote). The end of the housing routes cleanly into an integrated stop on the crown, and the general setup procedure is, overall, worlds easier and more straightforward than with the old setup (and thankfully, that stupid 1.5mm set screw has been replaced with one of a reasonable size!!!).

Ok, enough with the technobabble; how does the thing ride??? Like I mentioned early on, it's been a pretty fun couple of months. If nothing else, this fork's most obvious feature is the overall ride quality. Rock Shox' all-mountain air forks have come a long way from the finicky and overly-progressive Psylo Race. After a very short break-in period, things were super smooth without a hint of notchiness or bushing play. I can't make a blanket statement, however, in how the thing rides. Part of the beauty of the system is the adjustability; the combination of independently adjustable low- and high-speed compression damping can mimic the solid lockout of a well-tuned Pure fork, the firm pedaling platform of Manitou's first-generation SPV stuff, or the eat-anything-that-comes-at-it-big/fast/slow/small qualities of a HSCV-equipped Marzocchi. Add in the adjustability of the Dual Air system and you can have coil-spring plush to Mag 21-ish harsh; it's your choice. It's hard for me to draw a direct comparison between this and other competitive forks, since none of the other ones allow this sort of flexibility in damper tuning; this thing can almost feel like just about anything you want. Damping adjustments actually make a genuinely tangible difference from lock-to-lock, and the 100% tool-free compression adjustments are a godsend on the trail. In my opinion, the travel has a perfectly progressive spring rate, and the U-Turn feature, if nothing else, is excellent for dialing in handling characteristics. This fork's secondmost evident feature is the chassis rigidity; for one ride, I intentionally ran into as much stuff as I could at glancing angles to see if I would get bounced off-line, and for the most part (let's be reasonable here), this thing holds its line and pulls you through. I haven't ridden a Fox fork is a while now, but I would rate the Reba at least equally stiff, and noticeably stiffer than nearly any 30mm stanchion-equipped fork, such as the Manitou Minute 2 that preceded this tester.

So what didn't I like? Well, the wiper seals are Rock Shox' ubiquitous XXX units (identical to those on the Boxxer, for those of you that were wondering). They work reasonably well enough, but most of you know how I feel about the Enduro seals. In any event, I know the difference in cost between those and these, and it's hard for me to fault a company for not spec'ing the Enduros stock. Ok, fine, so the internals aren't gleaming bits of CNC-machined aluminum, there's no carbon fiber or titanium (yet???), and there isn't anything that one would likely consider to be "high tech" inside... so why is it so good? Suspension has one purpose in life, and that is to keep your tire's contact patch planted on the ground at all times so that you can brake, turn, accelerate, or whatever. In that respect, this thing simply does as told without a pile of fancy gimmicks, is adjustable for nearly any setup or preference, and just plain feels good! As long as the quality holds up over the long haul (please please please), I have to say that Rock Shox truly has a winner here.

(On a side note, just in case you're wondering, I tested this fork in 100% STOCK form; no oil changes, no seal swaps, no tweaking, so your experience should, in theory, be identical... but now it's time to do a little tinkering! Stay tuned.)

 

Carbonboy, lo pongo también aquí :wink:

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Saludos!!

Ya había visto el post pero no escribí nada porque creo que tengo poco que decir.

El SPV en la horquilla funciona bastante bien pero siempre poniendole el mínimo y el sistema de rocshoc es bastante más pijo de ajustar (más pijo q el SPV, que ya es decir)

Manitu hace ahora horquillas muy suaves y de tacto mantecoso y rocshoc siempre las ha hecho así


Si más o menos valen el mismo precio...y una es más ligera que la otra...

¿Cual es más bonita? La estética también cuenta.


Yo segúramente cogería la manitu porque las black ya llevan un tiempito y no se suele hablar mal de ellas (salvo alguna horquilla aislada), en la desición tambien contaría el que yo ahora mismo llevo una.


Por el otro lado te digo que hasta ahora siempre había llevado rocksox con muy buenos resultados.




Echa una moneda al aire...

 

Hola.
No he dicho nada de la horquilla porque hasta ayer no la habia probado,y con solo una salida no puedo decir mucho,pero las primeras sensaciones fueron muy muy buenas,para quien no lo sepa estoy hablando de la Reba SL u-turn,el recorrido es 80-115,el peso iba sobre los 1.700 si no recuerdo mal.
Para mi peso va genial,ayer hice una ruta con bastante piedras,con escalones y se porto de lujo,va suave como la sedaaaa y tampoco puedo decir mas porque con dos horas de salida.
Yo creo que he acertado con ella,ademas fue una compra muy meditada,aunque fue un regalo yo la llevaba en mente desde el festigay :wink:
Aqui podeis verla,en verdad es mucho mas bonita
http://www.foromtb.com/viewtopic.php?t=10399&highlight=reba

:scratch vamos a ver!!! explicate....

 

Asias a todos..

mmm me mola esto de la Reba..
el Pop-lock

 

aysss, esa es una frase que nos decimos en mi grupo de colegas del pueblo, jaja, una coña, cualquier cosa es de follaor si se la compra cierta persona..... jaja :twisted: en fin vaya tontería :mrgreen:

 

A mi, como dice miki, la black no me convence nada de nada... tiene pinta de horquilla barata, no siendolo.

Yo sin duda me quedaba con la REBA!!!!

Se que con lo que te viene no puedes elegir, pero una fox staria way tb,no?? :twisted: