:fumao ¿lo tenías escondido en el desván? :mrgreen: Para que luego me diga el tipo de Santa Cruz que escribe en mtbr: "it's all the internet's fault. if it weren't for the fact that we all have high speed immediate access to all kinds of information from around the world, none of us would give a rat's ass about any new bikes until the new bikes appeared in the bike shops. but we've moved beyond the instant gratification phase it seems, and are now into the pre-emptive gratification phase of this information society, where it isn't enough to find out about new things quickly. now we have to know about them in advance. will knowing about some new bike six months, or a year, before it is ready to sell really improve the quality of your life? will it really have any impact on the riding you do in the meantime? will it make the bike you currently ride handle any worse or better? no. but you have to know. we all do. it's a disease, i tell ya." http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=599254
Jaja, pues el tio tiene mucha razón, a mi por lo menos me gusta ver como sacan los prototipos y como los van evolucionando. Lo de la V10 dicen que es un chop, pero aunque lo sea, el rumor esta circulando.
bonita, pero me gustaria verla con mas luz, antes de poder guzgar... asi de primeras, le veo el pedalier muy alto, la direccion muy cerrada, y como en una caida caigas a plomo encima del sillin, no partes ni la tija, ni el sillin, sino que partes el cuadro...
"V10 CARBON Visually it’s very different, loads lower than previous. Sleeker and no doubt faster. The weight difference is obviously up there on the list of changes. TRAVEL It can be swapped between 8.5″ and 10″ and a range of settings and geometry. Headtube in 10″ setting can go between 64 and 66 degrees and IN half degree increments. IN THE 8.5″ setting 63 and 65 degrees. It’s a full degree slacker. But you can do whatever you want. “The front triangle has 125mm headtube with 1.5″, about the same as last year’s custom frames for the Syndicate. The team have very unique set ups, each thought they were on frames totally different but really they were the same. Production wise large is longer. Reach and stack is what people discuss mostly – about 20mm longer on large than it was, and the medium is longer as well” says Joe Graney" "WEIGHT 900g less than what they raced on last year. Production weights to be determined. STANDOVER Standover way lower. “Way the hell down”. MATERIAL Half inch of carbon up front. “We couldn’t break it in test lab. Casing a jump? Forget it, the jump will break first!” :alloreto SWINGARM The swingarm is identical to the Driver 8. Maxle rear end. The crucial point is that it’s made of aluminium." "Santa Cruz are keen to point out that this is not an official bike launch as such. Joe Graney continues the story before we head off up the hill. “We’ve still got some way to go. It’s not signed off yet. If it was all done the guys would just go and be racing it. That’s why we are all here to work through things and get some quality testing done. Everyone seems pretty stoked though even after just a day.” This is an important bike for Santa Cruz. It comes at a key time when a few other companies have been lowering the weight. It’s crazy how many new bikes have been coming out of Santa Cruz recently. Just before we head onto hill I grabbed Roskopp again and asked him how the riders were feeling. “Changing direction appears to be different, it’s quicker. The bike is more predictable at the front end. The guys have been commenting on how much easier it feels to be manualling through sections, changing lines quickly. Stiffness and weight. Some of the guys said I was like a kid in a candy shop when they first arrived. We’ve launched a lot of stuff in last six weeks, but it is great to be here going through performance stuff with the riders.” Finally how come the move to carbon? “We are all impatient and want to improve stuff. The learning curve in carbon has become extremely quick. Carbon wheels, weight and stiffness improvements. I’m all into performance. I can’t see myself riding aluminium again. But I’m lucky and can choose, the carbon is just that much better.”
Pero leísteis bien? Si he leído yo bien, media pulgada de espesor en el triángulo delantero (supongo que en algunos sitios menos) es muuuhco espesor!, no creo que se rompa no? Y aun así dicen que hay aprtes en alu porque han de ser así
*****... Me parece sorprendente. No parece un cuadro de DH al uso, desde luego. Ahí hay muchas horas de desarrollo.
ecualiar cuanto menos, algo mas de luz no iria mal.. Y que os parece el vivid air?? pq creo que es el que lleva.....
Sipi, es que si dicen 900 gr pero 400 son del amorto ya la hemos ******, porque muchos lo querrán con muellaco. Por cierto, el de ahora que pesa? he leído 4,5 kilos con muelle de acero (imagino que la talla más pequeña con un muelle "enano") y si ya me parece un peso "liviano", bajarle AL CUADRO (sin pensar en que aprte es por el amorto) 900 gr es una rebaja del 20%, como mantengan la rigidez.... lo único el precio, si son casi 3000 el nrmal este... 3500?
**** pues que lo dejen todo de aluminio y se acabó... desde luego que manera de complicar las cosas, no?. Eso si "bonica" es un rato...
Sacar al mercado una bici DH de carbono yo lo interpreto como un movimiento de Santa Cruz para dar credibilidad a la decisión estratégica de apostar fuerte por este material. A ver si me explico: estas mirándote una bici tipo blur lt, y te enteras de que existe la lt carbono. Si eres reticente a este material por que se rompe, una de las cosas que vas a hacer será: "uff, voy a mirar a ver si las bicis tochas las hacen en carbono" Si no las hacen, es probable que pienses: "claro, eso del carbono es sólo para los weightweenies, si no, seguro que tendrían una dh de ese material"; En cambio, si las hacen, entonces es probable que esa imagen de carbono preconcebida que tenemos casi todos, vaya perdiendo fuerza en tu argumentación, y toda la gama de carbono ganará en credibilidad.
La virgen del motocross, esa debe ser la de Peaty, porque es enorme, macho (y de bicis enormes se un rato) :lol: